| This was an all girls' school before you showed up. |
And now for Part Two of the New Stuff: Moddies and Wellies.
Look, I could have done this in a single part, or I could have finished dinner. And dinner was good. See I took the bone of a ham, and some veggies, and made soup. And I'm having that again today. Because it's damn good soup.
Then I had to fix Wiki mistakes. We so roll blocks for misdone pictures. Read the fucking manual.
And now it's time for the bloggings.
No One Needed Boys, But There They Are
| Oh. Boys. Stinky. |
One of the weird things about the boys is that they were modified from the face molds to have closed mouths and slightly "firmer" jawlines. Which is. Uh. Ahem. Time for another rant!
Boy dolls in the prepubescent age rage shouldn't have firm manly jaws. Carpatina was one of the first lines to do boys, and when you look at Adam and Carter they--uh. They don't look right at all. They look like old man heads on young boy bodies. Dissonance! Later dolls by the brand look better, but it still occasionally has the issue and part of the problem is very quick to articulate. The manufacturers don't want the boys to look girly or feminine, and one of the major differences in men and women's face shapes (stylistically/artistically, not always) is the jawline. Ladies are portrayed with soft jawlines, and men are portrayed with a sharper, more emphasized jawline. So designers lean towards giving their boy dolls a severely strong jaw, like a teenage boy might have, so that they look less "girly." Some also make the eyes smaller.
But a ten year old boy doesn't generally have a strong firm jaw. Until puberty really kicks in and takes a hold of them, they still have in part a semi-round, young face with a soft babyfaced jawline and large in ratio eyes, like so:
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| Baby faced. |
In trying to make a male doll appear less feminine, companies make their boys look too "old," and it's uncanny valley and off enough to be uncomfortable when paired with what's supposed to be an eight to ten year old girl. It's as uncanny as it is to take a Bitty Baby Head and put it on an 18" body because that head's too "young." AG didn't go as severe as some companies--just look at Carpatina again and fear everything--but they still added some thickness to the jaw, as well as thicker eyebrows which is also a thing little boys don't have. Also the closed mouth only hurts the whole idea that "Kaya has a boyish face" because of her closed mouth, and I might have to kick someone if they keep implying that Native people are boyish.
All of this is to say I just don't like boy dolls. Hell I despise 90% of boy dolls. I rarely had Kens growing up, I ignored all but one of my male Monster High Dolls,2 and I only enjoy boy ponies in limited styles and generally only Gen 1 where they have the fuzzy feets. To me AG boys are just 18 inches of Ken. I'm too gay for this shit and I'm too gay for boys. At least they popped in quietly, instead of being everywhere and hyped and getting the focus. There was no one hovering over the boys on Luciana's day, even. They just slid in with all the other new stuff.
| Today our boys come in Blond White Boy, Generic East Asian... |
#75: Jess mold, but in boy. Eh. Better than Chadly, but not as good as the others. He's mediocre. We'll call him Kenichi. He's not my friend.
| ...Ambiguously Brown, and Black Dude. |
#77: Of the four? He's the one that has the most chance of getting in my house. He's got a short 4C fro (that does not feel like a brillo pad fuck you very much you little white racists on IG) and he doesn't look nearly as constipated as all the other boys do. He's growing on me like a fungus. But I have too much going on in my AG life right now to mess with boys. Maybe if I start designing boy clothes.
Truly Me Boy's Outfit: They didn't name this meet set, just like the girl's, so we're just using this name on the wiki. Deal with it. Striped blue polos, the khakis of their people, and terrible plastic shoes, but these have lightning bolts! Meh. The dudes also have grey boxer briefs that I took a look at. If they sold the outfit separately, I'd probably get it. But I don't know that they will.
Now that I'm done looking at boys and have given them a half second, I can move on to the other stuff that came out. Yes, they have clothes, but I can talk about them neutrally because the clothes can be for anyone. Hell, you could get a "boy," put a cute little bow on the head, add a skirt, and have a short haired, closed mouth girl. Do what you want 'cause a pirate is free.
Moddie Mishaps: Clothes and Hats and Cool Lizard Stuff
| 'MERICAN GIRLS! |
| Accessorizing. |
| Taco Stand Tuesday. Thursday? Tacos. |
Sunny Day Dress: The embroidery on the dress is nicer than I thought silver and coral would be. But it's just the dress, sandals, and shoes. And the headband is a waste and the shoes are average. So a sale buy.
American Girl Snack Stand: Ice cream has been replaced with tacos, as the good Mexican Jesus intended. But there's not nearly enough cheese on those nachos. And why are the beans in a drawer? Are we keeping beans in drawers now? Is that salsa in a ketchup style condiment bottle? How waterly is your salsa? I don't think you understand how Mexican food works, AG. I don't do moddie furniture anyways.
| The Great Outdoors. |
Explore the Outdoors Outfit: For a while this was called the new hiking outfit and I was like "don't go hiking in sandals girl don't do it your gonna have a bad time." Even still, it's not the best time. The top and jacket combo works, but wear pants and hiking boots so bugs don't get a hold of your sweet sweet vinyl. The woods doesn't care if you're cute. They'll just bite your butt and give you poison ivy.
Shark Baseball Cap: Oh hey, a hat that doesn't suck. I like it! It's also blue. Let's put it on everyone--guys, gals, and enby pals. AG Seattle did, which makes me happy.
| Under the sea, under the sea-- |
- Sea Glass Tank,
- Mermaid Tee,
- Seashell Lace Tank,
- Sea Breeze Top,
- School of Fish Tee,
- Seashell Sequin Shorts,
- Wave Shorts,
- Ombre Waves Skirt,
- Seashore Stripe Skirt,
- Blue Sea Dress,
- Crisscross Sandals,
- and Lace-Print Shoes.
| There'll be no accusations, just friendly crustaceans, under the sea~! |
Knit Rhinestone Beanie: It's like the silver one but it's pink now. As much yarn as I've been making, I don't need to buy knit beanies. What I need to do is knit them. Especially once I spin up my building block and holiday elemental yarns.
Blue Fish Tote: I don't like purses that can't carry at least a stupidly large wallet and a tablet and possibly kill a man in one swing. So Handbag of Holding.
Dark-Blue Glasses: New glasses! New blue glasses! I love doll glasses so much. Put them on everyone.6
| The boots keep getting gayer! |
Teal Sneakers: Need shoes for dolls that have ugly plastic shoes? Get em some teal sneakers! They work for everyone. Even you. Especially you.
Gold Glitter Boots: brb gonna add to my shiny sparkly doll shoes collection because shiny doll shoes are the definitive best.
| Lizard! |
| Matching is for chumps! |
Coconut Tee: It's an all new Coconut tee! Now starring Coconut in front of a store window. I remain amused that Coconut the pet is gone, but Coconut keeps showing up in products as to remind us of the dog's loss. Either way, I rarely do Coconut stuffz.
Starry Jeggings: Jeggings are just pants without pockets, making them grossly inferior to jeans. These have the crime of false pocket stitching. Dicks. Gimme real pants.
Chambray Cadet Cap: It's a hat. It's an okay hat. It's not a hat for my group. We wear historical hats or, on occasion, beanies and toques.
| What'd I just say, AG? |
Coconut Coin Purse: Do....do people still carry coin purses? I don't even carry one anymore, and I used to carry coin purses. The hazards of grandparents who grew up in the era of the coin purse.
Coconut Cuff Bracelet: It's a bracelet. It's for kids. I didn't get a shot.
| Necklace. Or something. |
| Dress like your sister! |
And this can just transition into--
Wellies On Stage: Stick Out With Your Chick Out
The Wellies got some new stuffs, including a whole new change of meet accessories. I hope you weren't in love with the old accessory sets. They're gone now. Forever. Except secondary markets. You should have got them when they were on clearance for $5 each.
| Party like a rock star, introverted loner.7 |
Strings and Wings Guitar: It's cool, and I'll think about in the future. Wellies have wormed into my heart, no lies.
Butterfly Beats Keyboard: lol it's set up backwards to show the keys. But unlike Melody's piano, it doesn't make actual plays, just plays some theme music when you push it. Well, the age starts at five, so, y'know. Debatable.
| I don't think that girl's ever been to medical school. |
Carrot's Hutch Accessories: Add to the bunny hutch with more stuff! Veggies! a spot to grow veggies! A petting mitt! And a pillow that I think a real bunbun would shred. I don't have the hut so I don't need the extras.
Gopher and Watering Can: I don't like gophers. They're weird little rodents. I wouldn't get this.
Fox and Composting Can: I do like foxes. They're cool dogs that are catting. I'll get this.
Chicken and Coop: Chicken! Coop! Eggs! And apron! Learn where your food comes from. Like everything AG it's small for a real coop but it is intriguing.
| Capture the moment with Kodak. |
| I already sang the song once. Not again. |
| We are having a party! And you're not invited. |
| If you build it, they will doll. |
| Bad angle. Good Bunny. |
And for all those that got through all this with me, I have a special reward for you. That's right.
| Underpants! |
--Neth
1 This annoys me slightly, too. That AG didn't launch the boys until after lines like My Life As and Carpatina started doing boys. Don't play follow the leader, American Girl. You created the genre of 18" dolls. Then again you didn't fold as fast to the boy coalition. Conflicted!
2 I don't think they're going to last much longer, Monster High. Ever After High already sort of faded away from corners being snipped. They used to take up a whole half aisle in Target, now they have one tiny section. Such is the way of toys.
3 Guess who's due back. Yep. Molly. She'll be in cube form. That'll just leave Kirsten. Who would be super tempting!
4 Back when I was in school, if staff caught you with headphones, they'd take them away. Because somehow having music to listen to on the bus ride home or walking places meant that you would just whip it out in class and, I dunno, listen to your tapes when you should have been classing. *bangs cane*
5 Months ago, AG did an outfit mix up with Nogan.They put a few clothes on him that came in girls' sets--namely the shirt and jacket. And some white lady showed her ass going "Really? Couldn't get a real boys outfit. This is disgusting. Believe it or not There are family's out here that want boys to be boys and girls to be girls. That's what I thought American girls company represented. Guess not." Lady get a damn grip. Clothes is clothes. Quit panicking that putting a girl's jacket on a boy doll might bring about the apocalypse. I bet you vote Republican.
6 AG should really show more glasses on the boys.They only had it on one.
7 Gentlemen, (listen up) Ladies and transgressors, I appreciate the offers of all your subversive efforts; But to alleviate the scoffers and haters and other jesters, I'mma relegate myself to the more obvious F-words: Fuck this job, fuck my boss, fuck your finance--I give a fuck about these motherfuckers when I dance. (Daveed Diggs, "Night Time")
8 You stop that.

That´s the first good picture I´ve seen of the boy dolls. (Thanks!!!). I´m glad to see that at least they are not offering a Not!Nogan (Kaya face-stealing) boy in that line. The closed-mouth variations to the four other molds are interesting to see as new sculpts in their own right, though. You´re spot-on about the general jawline issue in boy dolls, though fortunately, it doesn´t look like they´ve overdone it here - all four closed-mouth mold dolls might just as well be short-haired girls (they seem neither too "feminine" nor too "masculine"). (And that hair on the black boy! Ooo I see quite the potential here for Sarah.) It looks, though, as if some of the variation molds look a lot less distinct from each other than the original smiling molds. While there is no mistaking the classic mold for Jess and vice versa, Chadley and Kenichi look almost like twins (you have to look a lot closer to spot the differences in the eyes and the smile). And the brown and black boy also look a lot more similar to each other than Sonali and Addy do.
ReplyDeleteTHANK YOU for saying the Carpatina dolls look weird!! I never liked them, they DO look like older men instead of boys... I don't like these boy dolls (don't get me wrong, I had a little bro who wanted an American Girl doll when younger but was turned off by all the pink and I think that boy should be allowed to play with whatever toys they want). I mainly don't like boy dolls because they don't have long enough hair to play with (hair play is a major part of owning dolls for me)... Gabriela is still in the catalog I got, and Luciana is also supposed to be a '2018 and beyond' experience too. {Shameless ad for my blog here - I posted on my blog Koalaity Dolls with scans of the catalog...}.
ReplyDeleteI made it to the end of the post and got a chuckle out of it. Thank you for all you do, Neth!
ReplyDeleteActually, the jawlines were not modified. The boys' jawline is completely identical to the girls' jawline. I think this may be causing some confusion for you because they're not showing teeth, which sort of gives the illusion that their jawline looks wider, but it's just simply not the case. They only gave them closed mouths and thicker eyebrows. And yes, some kids do have thicker eyebrows or thinner eyebrows.
ReplyDeleteI was told--and compared dolls against each other--and found a slight thickness in the jawline of the boy dolls against the girl ones.
DeleteI compared them and I see no difference. Even if there was, it's really subtle to the point where most people wouldn't notice. Again, it's probably giving that illusion due to the closed mouths.
DeleteKaya has the same closed mouth and her jawline doesn't look thicker than the other dolls.
DeleteThe boys' jawlines are the same as the girls' jawlines. I've seen them in person, in pictures, and I've compared them. It hasn't been changed.
DeleteI'm not continuing this argument with you. I see a difference, many of my fellow collectors have seen one, and you're the first not to see one and say something. This isn't green flavoring making something taste mint. Maybe some day I'll get calipers and double check, but right now I don't know you enough to care.
DeleteAn argument? I could have sworn we were having a simple discussion, but I guess you're really taking this to heart. If that's what you see, then fine. But the jawline has not been changed, and I know quite a few people who agrees with me. Maybe you got some false info from wiki or something, and made yourself believe that there's a difference, when in fact there's not. But whatever.
DeleteI'm taking this to heart because I've verified the difference, and there was an edit war on the Face Mold page regarding this that led to a page lock down. It's not "what I see." I had a friend do a comparison for me.
DeleteThis image shows a 62 and a 76 by each other. #76 has a marked difference in the jawline. His face is longer and from the side it is also noticeable.
I am willing to admit when I'm wrong. But I'm not wrong.
(Also I run the wiki.)
I'm not surprised that there was an edit war on this issue since people seem divided on whether or not the jawline is modified.
DeleteJudging by the pictures, I can see what you mean, but one thing I will consider is that face shapes can look either wider or longer depending on how you wear your hair.
https://imgur.com/a/fUOsx Looks pretty identical to me.
I've found the best possible use of the closed mouth (aside from Kaya): https://i.imgur.com/LPR2LOX.png
ReplyDeleteMay someday make this custom. Might not. The idea that boys have thicker eyebrows than girls or that they don't smile (boys can only show anger, no other emotion!) is pretty toxic and unnecessary.
Oh! You also forgot to mention you got recognized like 3 times while we were there! You're FAMOUS!
ReplyDeleteI totes was! And even got a gushing review! <3
DeleteI recognized you there!! :) I had my daughter with me.
DeleteI prefer dolls with neutral expressions and dolls not showing teeth, so I like the new face moulds and it would make me consider getting an AG doll at some point. But on the other hand, making new face moulds to differentiate between pre-pubescent boys and girls is not so cool. Conflicted. One thing that thankfully they didn't do is alter the eyelashes. Apparently eyelashes are a coded thing for girl vs. boy, to the point of omitting them on boy dolls.
ReplyDeleteI do like that AG have not labelled all the boy accessories and clothes 'for boys' and I hope they are used as much for girl dolls as for the AG boys. One thing doll companies seem to do a lot of is make girl doll clothes very girly (pink/pastels/frills, dresses and skirts and limited options for more neutral clothes) and while some girls love sparkly-princess-dress-up not all girls who like dolls like frills (I was that kid).
Hi, Neth! I'm a huge fan, but I have to tell you, salsa in condiment bottles is not inauthentic. I live in the South and am fortunate to live, work, and attend church with many Mexican-Americans and other Latino people. An authentic taco stand in my town with fresh tortillas and cilantro used condiment bottles for its salsa. With this in mind, might there be tacos in your dolls' future? As always, thank you for posting!
ReplyDeleteWell then I stand corrected! I don't eat salsa much (my bae does) and it's always chunky. I probably wouldn't buy the set still, though.
DeleteTM#75 looks different on the AG website, does he have Ivy eyes rather than Jess?
ReplyDeleteWow. AG uncensored. I love it. All the group's I'm in don't allow criticism ("negativity"). I love how you're keeping it real. And then I read that you're a Nano-er so I wish you lived next door.
ReplyDeleteAlso the queer.
DeleteI am so glad I found your blog. I love the humour and reviews. :)
ReplyDeleteGreat job! But where did the Nethie disappear to?
ReplyDeleteI hope she's ok.
DeleteOff topic, but why do people call Bitty Baby "Itty Bitty Baby"? It makes my eye twitch. I had to explain to a lady on another board what the BB stood for in the numbering system on "Itty Bittys". The struggle to remain polite caused me physical pain.
ReplyDeleteWhen will you do Book Blather? Currently re-reading all my AG books and I wonder if you think if there is a class issue between Kit's mom and Aunt Millie?
ReplyDeleteIn reference to boy dolls, most real life little boys are look (many are) unsure of their existence.
ReplyDeleteI stepped into the adult AG world for the first time two months ago. Realizing at 25 that I can spend my real adult dollars to get some of the things I lusted after as a child? And I can get them sometimes even cheaper than retail price on eBay?? Yes please! But it's also been a pleasure to read your blog. I like my fandoms with a heavy dose of realistic criticism, thank you. And your knowledge of fashion and history is so great as well.
ReplyDeleteQuestion for you, when you pop back onto the blog world: what's up with the newer cloth bodies? They seem to have changed in color since I was thumbing through AG catalogs in the early 2000s. And I've tried to find out when the change happened, but Google only gives me article after article about the perma-undies. Occasionally I see someone on IG or YouTube or something mention that they don't like the new cloth, but maybe there was a change in texture as well as color and that's what they mean? Haven't been able to locate something about this on the wiki or on here, but it could be around and I just haven't found it.
The change I'm referring to is that many of the new torsos just don't match the vinyl skin tones of the dolls. And that goes for both light-skinned and dark-skinned dolls, though it's more apparent with the darker skin tones. I only own one AG, a 2003 light-skinned doll, and I've always been impressed at how closely her torso matches her limbs. Now they're charging $30 more for something that doesn't look as realistic.
In their early promo photos, Cecile and Marie Grace seem to have torsos that match their skin tones. But I've also seen photos of the dolls, perhaps later releases, with the stranger torso colors. Especially Cecile with a bright peachy torso. So maybe the change has happened since their release in 2011? Yet the BeForever Addys I've seen do have cloth that matches the vinyl pretty well. So I really have no idea what's going on. I just know that it doesn't look as good, and there also seem to be more wrinkles around the neckline on a lot of these dolls (a result of the zip tie or something else?).
So this mystery is driving me a bit up the wall. Being new to the fandom, I'm not sure who else to ask. Help me, Neth, you're my only hope!
Love your comments about Chadly :).
ReplyDeleteunrelated but don't you have a created historical who is a gamer from the 80s? what if I told you that you could get her a more-or-less properly scaled Commodore C64 replica that actually works (but has HDMI output so you can plug it into modern TVs)? apparently it's not released in the US yet but it should be soon, and if you just gotta have it now there are probably some European retailers that will ship it.
ReplyDeletehttps://youtu.be/GXXCj5kqPcM